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Hello to all,

I was just interested if anyone is making Muscle mass gains?

I have lost almost all of my muscle mass since starting HIT training.

I have been training for three years now, two of them have been training 3-4 days a week, no more then 45 minutes a work out about 10-15 sets per workout. And I have made huge gains with that style of training. I switched to HIT training in the summer of 2003 and I have atrophied ever since. I have read everything available from Mike Mentzer and understand the theory but I guess am doing something wrong.

I′m currently using the ideal routine, training once ever 7-10 days.

3-5 sets per workout. I′m making strength gains but no mass gains, am getting really discouraged. Please help.

In MY opinion the ideal routine is too low frequency (not volume) for size gains, especialy with 7-10 days between workouts. If I were you I would swtich to the Athlete Routine and train once every 2-3 days, add rest days if you don′t progress but don′t rush to excessively low frequency. The frequency must be as low as possible to allow recovery and surcompensation but also as high as possible to provide a stimulus as often as possible.

I would also know if people who do realy low frequency gain muscles !? Like the guys doing nothing but one set of leg press once every 6 weeks and maybe one set of pulldown or dips.

MRWINKEL

It′s not physiologically possible to have made strength gains and lost mass!!! The human body just doesn′t work that way. Even if you did no training at all, there′s no way you could have lost all your mass and atrophied!!!!

There′s only two possible explanations: You were on massive dosages of steroids and stopped abruptly. Or you have a metabolic wasting syndrome, like AIDS or something!!!!

If your were making huge gains, as you say, on your former style of training, why would you have switched? I′ve never known anyone to change a training routine that they′re making "huge gains" on!!!

Something just doesn′t add up . . .

KEEP BLASTING . . . Steve . . .

mrwinkel, what is your current weight and and how much fat?

The same goes for the time when you where in best shape?

You don´t think it could just be a feeling?! Because training several times a week makes your muscles more "pumped" more often than training once a week!

I have been gaining muscle since I started HIT the MM way in August. It has been small and consistent gains. Nothing massive but just consistent.

My chest back, shoulders, arms, thighs. I would have to say the only real disappoimtment is that my arms only increased .25 inches and this was only recently.