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and L Glutamine.

What do my fellow HITTERS think about this suppliment. I am seriously considering trying it. All the claims that have come, i have read that it will increase my bodys natural growth hormone by 430%. It helps you recover faster from a workout, and increasing the strenght of your immune system..

Everywhere I go, even doctors, and many research studies say it DOES increase growth hormone.

What do you all think

Lets start this Topic!

I think it may workout well, however like anything else, do not expect miracles to be worked. Try it and see, if it gets you stronger than before, then go for it.

I personally do not use it, but I may give it a go.

I′ve tried it on two occasions, once in conjuntion with creatine, and once by itself.

I noticed no change in either my body or strength levels. The first time I used it with creatine and noticed nothing from either of them. I got off them, changed my training and protien intake, and started gaining again, albeit slowly. I tried glutamine by itself again at this point, and it didn′t speed anything up at all, and my progress had already pretty much stopped by the time the bottle was almost gone.

It′s worthless in my book, no matter what "studies" claim. Proper diet and training is all you need.

Jeff

It sucks to be a supplement non-responder eh? I take creatine, and nothing happens for me, and everything else doesn′t work either. Prohormones sure did work though.

I don′t even think it′s the case that I′m a "supplement non-responder." I just think they′re straight up useless crap. Creatine and Glutamine, and whatever else there is. The only people who buy supplements at all are,

A) Kids who haven′t got a clue (I was one of these at one time).
B) People who are psychologically dependent on them, regardless of their lack of effect.
C) People who gain, but would gain just as well without them.

I know plenty of guys who′ve been around for a while, and they can all repeat what I′m saying. They tried them when they were young and impressionable, like me, as we all thought they were "important" and the missing link in our bodybuilding program; the keys to success like the magazines told us. In reality, we just didn′t have a clue how to train or eat properly. After years of pissing money down the toilet, we got fed up, stopped, matured, and learnt how to properly eat and train.

Some people have endless amounts of money and don′t really care if they piss it away. They don′t actually experiment with it to see if the supplement gives them any benifits over proper training and diet (which it doesn′t). Instead, they think they have to use them and spend all their time talking about suplements instead of learning how to train and eat. It′s a joke, and I hate the industry and magazines for doing this to people. They print absurd training programs of the pros for people to follow, which overtrians the crap out of them, then they have a big glossy supplement add on the next page. It′s how they make their money, as you can′t repeatedly sell training and diet advice.

I′d be willing to say this: A supplement won′t make a crap routine and diet work, and a supplement won′t make a routine and diet that works work better. Not a chance. A complete waste of money.

I′d love to post a thread in here called, "Supplements are a waste of money, don′t buy them" or something like that. Unfortunately, nobody would listen, as we all have to find out for oursleves that they are pointless. I wish I had listened to the people who told me, that way I wouldn′t feel so stupid now.

Jeff