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Hello everyone

Unfortunatly while doing a workout the other night i injured my lower back while deadlifting.
I have been to see a sports/spinal physiotherapist and thankfully the injury is only minor, i have been told to stay away from the weights for a few weeks and have been given a couple of rehabilitation exercises to do.
I have got Mark Rippetoes Starting Strength and have been following his lifting techniques.
I showed my physiotherapist the way i deadlift, he said my technique needed correcting and showed me the precise position my back needed to be in.
He said my technique on the way up was ok (it was on the way up i injured myself) but needed a little correcting on the way down.
He also said in future to do partial deadlifts instead of full range deadlifts, because full range puts to much pressure on the lower back.
The way he showed me how to go up and down was so precise, what chance has someone got of keeping precision form while deadlifting heavy weights without a specialist there with you correcting your form?
My form is pretty consistant i always keep the bar close to my legs, my back flat on the way up, i never let my back round on the way down, and i always move at a reasonable speed.
I just dont think i can keep the precision form the physiotherapist wants me to use for every rep, every set, every workout.
I think when i get back into training i might just drop the deadlifts for good, I know their a good strength/mass builder, but maybe their a bit to dangerous, I know injuries happen but i just dont want another one.

In Mark Rippetoes book on page 212 he writes"If your trainees work hard enough to improve, they will work hard enough to get hurt. as coach it is your responsibility to make sure that they are using proper technique, appropriate progression, and safe weight room procedure. they will still get hurt"
So basically if we do eveything properly were still going to get hurt sometimes?
If we want to get bigger and stronger we have to put up with injurys?
Are these injurys going to do permanent damage to us over time?
Even if we dont get injured will doing heavy deadlifts/squats/presses etc do damage to us over time?
I dont want to knock Mark Rippetoes program/techniques ive used a variation of his beginer program for a couple of months and have been very happy with the progress, when i recover i will most probably carry on with the program (maybe minus the deadlifts) but im questioning whether or not its worth the potential injury/damage.

How have other members here coped and recovered from injury and have you carried on using the same exercise(s) you got injured on?
Has anyone here suffered permanent damage as a result of an injury, if so how has it affected your training and normal day to day life?
Any input on this subject would be very much appreciated.

Cheers Jonson

I am in the same boat. I hurt my shoulder doing deads from the floor. I then did partial deads in the rack, and I hurt my lower back on my 3rd rep with 484 lbs. I have been stretching it out since the injury, and I am waiting on it to recover.

It has been about a month since I did it. I am going to deadlift for higher reps this time around. I am thinking in the 10-12 rep range.

Good luck,

Jesse

Jesse,
Have you been doing any other exercises while waiting for your lower back to recover or have you just stopped training altogether?

Jonson

to be honest i used to injure myself regularly on deadlifts for some reason and because you can use such a massive weight on it technique is so crucial, but so many people don′t have the patience to compromise techinque with weight (me included!) and then we injure ourselves… my tip would be to switch to the holy grail of deadlifts the trap bar deadlift and if thats not possible (i′m working on the next part!)

Abs have you used trapbar deadlifts, if so have you gone as heavy on them as regular deadlifts and have you ever injured yourself on trap bar deadlifts.
Cheers