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I just wanted to say to all the people that are geting stronger and not much bigger,that goes for the ones that have packed up heavy duty from this as well thinking HIT does not work! Or people that are not geting much stronger/or bigger and are training infreqently with a few sets,TRY THIS.

I now believe you were/are geting stronger from nervous system adaptions!! and not from true hypertrophy of the muscles,especially people who use the consoladation rountine of mikes,as you have very few sets,and with a rep range of 6-10 i do not believe its enough inroad (fatigue) of the muscles to grow muscle for a lot of people,only those with mostly fast twitch muscles.

So i now believe if you up the reps,so you are fatigueing the muscles more,you will find your muscles grow more,there by making you stronger instead of the nervous system making you stronger!!

So if you are not growing how you feel you should try a higher rep range!! You just may need a higher FATIGUEING OF THE MUSCLE to grow!!

This might be basic to some,but a lot of people have proberly not tryed this,and still thinking you need the real heavy weights to grow muscles. Like i have been doing for many years now!!

I thought i was overtraining,but it seems now i was just fatigueing my nervous system more than i was my muscles!!

Ok, hope this helps some people.

Yes I found this out myself.Maybe becuase I′m older now(44).But using higher reps is giving me my best gains ever.And no it′s not easier it′s a Hell of alot harder,but boy do you feel like you worked out!

Hey Howard

I think I might try that with Dips. I will use 60% of my 1RM and go to failure at a 1/1 rep speed. This would give me a 40% inroad.

Stevo

Sounds good to me stevo! So i guess you will get about about 15 reps with that, let me no how many you get. And that would be 30 secs TUL. Thay say 30-90 seconds are for hypertrophy.Not that i believe that much in TUL theroy.

Ive not made up my mind how much inroad will be about right for me yet,guess just a matter of experimenting.

I just did a set of incline press and managed to inroad 60% My chest is very sore today and my triceps. Think that might be to much microtrauma to the muscle.

Ill try high rep leg press next i think, hope i can walk the next day. haha.

But i guess if did it regularly you would not get as sore?

I think 40% inroad will be just about right stevo.

Do I understand this idea correctly – the suggestion is to go up to around 15 reps, with a lighter weight, keeping to under 90 seconds TUL? The model is still one set to failure, without extenders? I′m interested in this because, while I am still becoming stronger (at age 67) any attempt to gain weight, even by careful, controlled calorie adjustment, seems to turn to fat. I love the consolidated routine, and this would seem to be a reasonable and potentially successful adjustment. Any comments/suggestions will be welcome.